tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23362604687961514.post692146456130410246..comments2023-10-30T04:31:42.031-07:00Comments on THE TEMPLE: A PAUSE FOR THOUGHT: WHY BOTHER?Pegasushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12122356371487253798noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23362604687961514.post-13877610349609026822008-10-27T16:04:00.000-07:002008-10-27T16:04:00.000-07:00Except that Hod is associated with Aaron and Proph...Except that Hod is associated with Aaron and Prophecy, thus it is a Sephira which pounts towards conception of the higher Sephiroth...<BR/><BR/>Yesod, Netzach and Hod are regarded as the highest levels most humans can reach. Hence they are associated with Joseph, Moses and Aaron respectively. But these three Patriarchs communicted with The Most High, so the suggestion is that they enable us to reach higher. Indeed, if this were not possible, we would not know about the Sephiroth above...<BR/><BR/>Christ represents Tiphareth, as does Jacob - understanding of the angels ascending and descending ie the human capacity to see 'Beyond'.<BR/><BR/>According to Kabbalah, our 'programming' not to see beyond Malkuth comes from our separation from the Godhead, the One, because of Adam, ie our desire to have Knowledge of Good and Evil. Psychologically7 spiritually this is to do with our desire to learn and understand. If we didn't have the Truth hidden from us, we would not seek it and so understand it.<BR/><BR/>Physiologically, I believe its like the unconscious 'programming' we have which gives us innate actions like breathing & sleep etc which are essential to existence and keep us going whatever. In the same way our Consciousness is 'programmed' not to perceive our multi-dimensional Reality as it might overwhelm us and drive us mad. We are designed to only perceive these things gradually, after much work... But the magic trail is there. We can follow it if we want... And in doing so, we hopefully learn to use the Knowledge responsibly...Pegasushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12122356371487253798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23362604687961514.post-5931473569685820672008-10-27T02:36:00.000-07:002008-10-27T02:36:00.000-07:00Probably, but why then are we so conditionned by o...Probably, but why then are we so conditionned by our thoughts? Multidimensionnal universe implies that thoughts can't be located because as far as I know thoughs are not located in physical space, they are located in Bergsonian space which is different of what we can find about them experiencing their effects daily in the material world.<BR/>Yet Thoughs are not made of consciousness but are rather interacting with it, influencing it and making it able to work properly.<BR/>How then a multi dimensional space depending of consciousness would be defined by something that is out of it (out of any dimension I mean).<BR/>In a previous post you mentionned that it could be an interesting idea to consider that each dimension is corresponding a sphere of the qaballah (as they are both ten). In my view, as the sphere of Hod is concentrating the thought ability of the soul, this sphere can't be multidimensionnal, since it is one dimension ( as we postulate) and besides it is acting on the whole consciousness so there is a problem in the definition of consciousness as belonging to a multi dimensional universe because then, consciousness is directed by something with no dimension that is belonging to a sphere that is just one dimension of the multi-dimensional universe.<BR/>How is it possible, that's probably a mystery.mathieuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07227743602147281755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23362604687961514.post-2487070396817087002008-10-27T01:30:00.000-07:002008-10-27T01:30:00.000-07:00I agree.Bohm, interestingly, identifies Consciousn...I agree.<BR/><BR/>Bohm, interestingly, identifies Consciousness and Matter as being One in the same way as Time and Space and Electricity and Magnetism are One... He also suggests that our three-dimensional forms are 'projections' of a multi-dimensional reality. Thus to try and find solutions through study of the three dimensional physical body is pointless as the common ground of it and our multi-dimensional 'bodies' is Consciousness. Thus Consciousness is key.<BR/><BR/>This is why all Mystical Systems encourage the Initiate to pursue higher states of Consciousness. It is in this unifying principle that 'answers' are found...Pegasushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12122356371487253798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23362604687961514.post-78129458600016300682008-10-27T00:07:00.000-07:002008-10-27T00:07:00.000-07:00Interestingly, this make the point with what we di...Interestingly, this make the point with what we discussed on the other post ( Part 2 of Bohm topics) and should be taken into account o understand the link between consciouness and life as a physical material process. If the sexual component of life is repressed it becomes acting through the unconscious and what happens is that the evolution of man is transformed by this unconscious force;<BR/>and so consciouness too.<BR/>the problem of the link between consciouness and matter involve so three aspects: <BR/>1-determined by the terms of how life is created (cf (answer in the first part of the part 1 of Bohm topics)<BR/>2- The interaction between the Whiet light/ Blue Light and others light which is conducing to the qaballistic tree of life point of view (part 2 of Bohm topics).<BR/>3 The relationship between Life, Yin-Yang and Sex energy (this topics)<BR/>I propose to treat those three aspects in differents topics so that we are not overcharging one topic with differents issues.<BR/>We will have a more ordered pannel of work to discuss if we do it such like this, don't you agree?mathieuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07227743602147281755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23362604687961514.post-82373902514242393212008-10-26T11:13:00.000-07:002008-10-26T11:13:00.000-07:00Its perfectly allright!Yes, by necessity an articl...Its perfectly allright!<BR/><BR/>Yes, by necessity an article on a Blog trying to take an overview of the spiritual trends of Western Civilisation is going to be general, but I think my point is valid. Where I wholeheartedly agree with you (and I try to correct a simplistic reading of what I said in the first Bohm article) is that swinging from one extreme of the pendulum to another is fruitless, which is why, once again, I am arguing for a synthesis, not a swing back to a spiritual rather than a materialist view. I actually spoke overtly about a synthesis in an earlier version of the post but took it out because I thought it was implied. I may put it back in as its clearly not clear enough!<BR/><BR/>Your reference to the Dao is crucial here, as it is the meeting in the centre. And, if there is an truth screaming out here its that there is no One Big Solution for humankind. It is different for everyone. For every actio there is a counterreaction. Thus, as you say, a society which represses sex becomes neurotic, while one which lets it all hang out gets stale. Meanwhile everyone has to go on working out his or her individual destiny within that. As you put it brilliantly:<BR/><BR/>"The problem is not coming from the side but from the middle. Man is not able to convince himself that the middle of his Self ( that we can represent symbolically by the center of a Yin-Yang symbol) is not static but dynamic;"<BR/><BR/><BR/>That is why this article goes no further than saying we need to reopen exploring the inner universe rather than just the outer. It doesn't say we should ONLY go inner. In the end, as the Dao says, there is no Inner or Outer. They are the same...<BR/><BR/>All these processes are innate, organic, unconscious. We cannot force any of it. Its going to happen however it happens, alas...Pegasushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12122356371487253798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23362604687961514.post-1267723658366608062008-10-25T11:28:00.000-07:002008-10-25T11:28:00.000-07:00Correcting of some spelling mistakes"So his told h...Correcting of some spelling mistakes<BR/><BR/>"So his told him: can stop to this please, it's been 30 years you are tapping/ untapping this damned button? Eddison answered: "Do you know what it is ? The wife: Yeah! this is electrity! Eddison: Do you know what is Electricity?"<BR/><BR/>should be:<BR/>"So she told him: can you stop to do this please, it's been 30 years that you are tapping/ untapping this damned button? Eddison answered: "Do you know what it is ? The wife: Yeah! this is electrity! Eddison: Do you know what is Electricity?"<BR/><BR/>It is rather strange that I make some mistakes forgetting some words at almost any post I do.<BR/>Sorry about that.mathieuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07227743602147281755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23362604687961514.post-29546625546849595772008-10-24T16:39:00.000-07:002008-10-24T16:39:00.000-07:00This post is very interesting but the ideas it is ...This post is very interesting but the ideas it is speaking about are, even rich of teachings but too general to be applied in a particular context. Let's take an example. Martin Heiddegger, who is considered as one of the greatest philosopher of the XXe century, inspired Sartre and named his philosophy of the 'Da sein' ('Da sein' is a view he is using to qualify what I believe to be the perception of the Self experienced by a philosopher): "Atheist existencialism". besides this fact that he inspired Sartre, Heidegger turned Nazi and became one of the great defender of this ideology justifying that "Nazism" was an expression of his philosophy. How a man of such a great culture and such a highest system of value can turn to system that even me I known it was coming more from historical influences and symbolic deprivation that from a real conception of the consciousness.<BR/>Hanna arendt studied Heidegger's philosophy but I can't state if she became a nazi too.<BR/>Another great figure of peace of the XXe century was George Bernard shaw. The originality of this thinker is that he wrote his ideas into his preface so that his books were for most of them richly prefaced giving after that some stories illustrating allegorically the topic of the book.<BR/>But he also, as was pretending to be from the "Atheist Idealism" turned himself to stalinisn making his apology.<BR/>Again why a pacific man, even if reformer and critizer of the capitalistic system took a so extrem view about the human ethical values. Jung is speaking about 'Conscious unilaterality' or 'unconscious unilaterality' to specify those that follow their intellectual tendencies without pushing them to the extrem and those who are following them blindly without even being able to approach them.<BR/>In my view, in the humanity is coming from materialistic view and is just going to a spiritualistic view it will change nothing in the view but make it worse off.<BR/>The problem is not coming from the side but from the middle. Man is not able to convince himself that the middle of his Self ( that we can represent symbolically by the center of a Yin-Yang symbol) is not static but dynamic;<BR/><BR/>I would want to give a view about another problem that is related to this idea in order to illustrate a bit: this is the problem of sex in human societies. Into his book "Sex Matters" Osho rajnesh spoke about the sexual problems in humans societies as "pendulum problems". By this, he means that, in the whole history of humanity, there was always one side, against sex ( He illustrates this by societies where sex were described as dirty and were focused as 'sin') and others that are 'pro-sex' (He calls this to overindulge sex). What is the phenomenon?<BR/>In societies where sex is repressed, people become more anxious about it, because as sex is also "sexual energy" of libido, his repression induce the formation of psychic problems. Furthermore, this is in those societies that appears the concept of "devil" ( the devil is no less that the effect in the unconscious of the repression of such an important tendencies).<BR/>On the other hand, prostitution & pornography both flourishe in those societies. So we have a double level scale of value: to the surface sex is prohibited and under the surface it become allowed and is overflowing; On the societies where sex is overindulged, it will become boring after a certain period of time and so it is the reverse effect that happens: sex become a social mecanisms without importance: people are having sex as if they are going to grocery.<BR/>In those two society we can see the pendulum motion, when sex is prohibited it becomes overindulged and when it is overindulged it becomes boring so no one will want to have it.<BR/>And it is such like this, sibce the beginning of humanity, endlessly societies that prohibits sex become overindulgent and societies overindulgent start to repress this tendencie.<BR/>I would want to continue with another view that made me laugh the first time I saw it.<BR/>Thomas Eddison, was working into in laboratory for 30 years before he can become one of pionneer of electricity.<BR/><BR/>His wife that was looking at it was very annoyed about the fact that he tapped/untapped a button for testing his circuit.<BR/>One day, the light came! Eddison succeeded and was euphoric, for the first time in 30 years he succeed to make it electric circuit to work.<BR/>So his told him: can stop to this please, it's been 30 years you are tapping/ untapping this damned button? Eddison answered: "Do you know what it is ? The wife: Yeah! this is electrity! Eddison: Do you know what is Electricity?<BR/>And the wife didn't reply and Tap the button and then the light came and she said: Yes, this is it, This is electricity!<BR/><BR/>When you are seeing this little story, perhaps you are asking to yourself what is the moral?<BR/>The moral is that: For the wife, Electricity is as simple as to Tap a button and have the light bright. For Eddison however, Electricity was a great mystery, it took him 30 years to have this little result and didn't understood yet the whole process.<BR/>It is the same for sex. For many people sex is just 'fuck' and let go but for those who are trying to understand the whole process of what it really take place into us, a whole life is not sufficient, it is a great mystery. As it is connected to the mystery of life, I suppose that we should that it is only by the complete understanding of the mystery of sex that we would be able to master the msytery of life. As every religion is repressing sex and is depreciating it ( at least now because in the Roman Empire sex was the funding of the Mithraic religion and in Tibet he is always known as a fundamental part of Tantric Buddhism) we are not gonna be able to understand fully what qaballah and every mystic teaching means by to be centered or remains in a "wu ji state" (remains in kether in the qaballah) since our Yin-Yang is always going from one side to the other and we are not able to equilibrate it without hoing to the extremes ( as did Heidegger and Georges Bernard Shaw).mathieuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07227743602147281755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23362604687961514.post-14853514245938444282008-10-15T08:00:00.000-07:002008-10-15T08:00:00.000-07:00Congratulations on a very interesting and thoughtf...Congratulations on a very interesting and thoughtful article.<BR/><BR/>Brad Hoffstetter<BR/>Communications Division<BR/>Assembly of good Christians<BR/>www.cathar.netAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23362604687961514.post-83233691285205576812008-10-15T04:25:00.000-07:002008-10-15T04:25:00.000-07:00The Temple in Jerusalem or Holy Templerefers to a ...The Temple in Jerusalem or Holy Templerefers to a series of structures located on the Temple Mount (Har HaBayit) in the old city of Jerusalem. Historically, two temples were built at this location, and a future Temple features in Jewish eschatology.<BR/>-------------------<BR/><BR/>Adam<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.drivenwide.com" REL="nofollow">Internet marketing</A>Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17353921074690923592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23362604687961514.post-22608557986792859422008-10-14T16:48:00.000-07:002008-10-14T16:48:00.000-07:00Blessed is he who, with open eyes and open heart, ...Blessed is he who, with open eyes and open heart, walks this world knowing not where he wishes to go, where he has been but simply knows where he is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com